Chessington District Residents Association
For the meeting to be held on 3rd of October 2017
At St Pauls Centre, Hook Road 8pm
1. CHESSINGTON DISTRICT RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION NOTICES
2. MINUTES OF LAST MEETING
3. VISITING MEMBERS QUESTIONS AND CONTRIBUTIONS
4. MAJOR NEW ISSUES ONLY
5. MATTERS ARISING AND MINOR ISSUES
6. HEALTH ISSUES
7. EDUCATIONAL ISSUES
8. PLANNING APPLICATIONS
9. PLANNING NEWS
10. POLICE REPORT 11.ANY OTHER BUSINESS
Of the meeting held on the 12th September 2017
Chairman -Colin Punch, Vice Chairman Mike Hoare, Treasurer - Diane Brannan, John Botterill, Brian Ekins, Graham Hedley, Jenny Lewington, Rob Robb, Peter Shakeshaft, Colin Suckling, Sue Towner, Sheila Watkins
Councillor Andrew Day, Joan Carter.
Councillor Margaret Thompson, Colin Dance, Dick Ware
1. CHESSINGTON DISTRICT RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION NOTICES
( a ) Jim Taylor - The meeting was told that Jim Taylor, who was initially Chairman and then Vice Chairman of our association, has now left the area. Jim was a founder member of our association which has been in existence for over forty years. He was an expert on planning matters. He helped to keep us all on track and will definitely be missed. We wish him all the best in his new home.
2. MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING
The minutes were agreed as a true and accurate record of that meeting with the exception of item 6i, Tolworth Hospital under Health Matters. We received an email from Alan Moss Chairman of Kingston Mental Health Carers' Forum correcting our minutes. He wrote:-
I feel the need to correct an item in the Minutes, just to alleviate unnecessary distress to residents.
Tolworth Hospital site is owned by South West London & St Georges Mental Health Trust (SWLStG), not to be confused with St Georges Trust which operates the general hospital in Tooting.
SWLStG does not have community nor rehab beds at Tolworth. Lilac Ward is a 23-bedded Adult Acute MH ward for those in specific need of inpatient care.
Cedar Ward is operated by Your Healthcare where adult patients in need of rehab (not MH) are admitted either from acute hospital (such as Kingston or Epsom) or from referrals by Community Nurses.
Tolworth Hospital is to be redeveloped to provide modern state-of-the art MH facilities with a greater number of beds. SWLStG has good plans in place for the temporary relocation of patients from Lilac ward whilst construction work is in progress. I am not in a position to tell you what plans Your Healthcare has.
We are grateful to Alan for his correction. Please see 6g below for an update on the community bed issue.
3.VISITING MEMBERS QUESTIONS AND CONTRIBUTIONS
There were none
4. SUMMARY OF MAJOR ISSUES
There were no Major Issues
5. MATTERS ARISING AND MINOR ISSUES
( b ) Elmcroft Drive Crash Barrier Last month we wrote:- Following on from the ongoing saga whereby several years ago TfL stupidly created a dangerous situation by removing the crash barriers at the end of Elmcroft Drive. There was recently an accident there which proved that this crash barrier is much needed. After much chasing up and pulling out of hair, Mike Hoare has finally been told that TfL will renew the crash barriers by the end of August 2017. Watch this space!
At todays meeting Mike advised that TfL have now put in the new barriers. However, they are standard barriers and not as strong as the original. We are hoping that they will be sufficient to prevent any cars crashing through the barriers onto the A3..
( c ) Woodgate Play Area On the 30th of August we received an email from Robert Waite the Green Spaces Manager at RBK giving us an update on this project. This is what we were told:-
We have now selected the supplier we will be working with on the play scheme, and will be starting the public consultation based on a mock design the supplier has produced.
Once the initial consultation process closes we are intending on setting up a small group of stakeholders to review the information gathered with a view to agreeing on a final design to take forward, and of course we would welcome the involvement of yourself or another interested person from the association to be part of that group.
As we have supported this project since its inception we will be pleased to have the opportunity to participate in the agreement of the final design.
( d ) Chessington World of Adventures (CWA) - Our Chairman and another member of our association attended a meeting with Simon Burge the Strategic Development Director at CWA. We were told that CWA will be improving the 60 acre wood where the new Go Ape will be. They will also improve the pathway and clear unsafe trees. There will be ten to fifteen segways for visitors to ride through the trees.
We were also told that there is a large bat population in the wood.
The Lion and Tiger enclosures will be moved and enlarged. There will be a new water ride which will go past the enclosure.
There is due to be a new tiger addition.
Residents of Almshouse Lane will be pleased to know that coaches which currently drive up their narrow lane to the sports field have now been given permission by CWA to use their entrance in future.
( e ) Surbiton Crescent road closure - Last month we wrote:- Most of our readership will have read about the closure of this road in Surbiton even if they have not experienced it for themselves. It is closed to cars so as to enable cyclists to cycle through freely. The Council has made many thousands of pounds in fines from cars mistakenly driving through, due to the poor signage. Even though the local residents strongly oppose the road closure, the Council want to make the closure permanent. However, a petition has been collected by residents so that the issue will have to be called in and heard at full Council.
Our Vice Chairman Mike Hoare wrote to the Council to tell them that this closure is unconstitutional. They cannot shut the road in both directions as it is removing the drivers constitutional rights. It is also more dangerous for the bikes as they are now crossing a faster, busier road. There should be a sign 30 metres before the closure. To date a reply has not been received from the Council.
( f ) Crossrail 2 Our Chairman was contacted by Gavin Cambridge a Local Consultation and Engagement Officer for the project. Below is some information which was gleaned from their conversation:-
The scheme has not yet been given the go-ahead.
It is at the very early stages at present and funding still has to be allocated
There will be a public consultation in local areas, possibly next year, before a firm proposal is put forward. They know there are obstacles to overcome, including three level crossings.
He does not recognise the figure of 70,000 homes to be built in one particular area. However upon further investigation he wrote:-
Ive found out some further information about the 200,000 homes figure that we discussed. London First, a business organisation focused on London, created an independent report in 2014 about some of the ways that Crossrail 2 could be funded. The section is here:
A second option would be to allow more intensive residential development at a location along the south western end of the route. As an example, the group identified the area around Chessington South in the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, which is one of the destinations being considered for Crossrail 2. The area to the south of the Borough contains land that could potentially be released for new housing. The main transport connection at the moment is an underutilised branch line to Chessington South, which provides two trains per hour to Waterloo with a 36 minute journey time. An extended Crossrail 2 line and new station in the area could at least double service frequency to a minimum of 4 trains an hour and provide a direct rail connection into the West End in 35-40 minutes.
For illustrative purposes, if 450 hectares of land were released for housing then some 70,000 new homes could be built in a new high value residential location. Assuming a CIL contribution of £200 per square metre per dwelling, initial modelling suggests that some £1,660 million could be raised for Crossrail 2. Taking into consideration the fact that a CIL rate of over £500 for residential development has been set by Wandsworth for Battersea and Nine Elms, this figure could potentially be even higher.
He continued to write
- The most significant amount of homes enabled by Crossrail 2 on the route is in the North East corridor, which may be in the tens of thousands but across a large area stretching from Tottenham to Broxbourne. We dont have exact figures at this point.
- We expect the public consultation to cover the entire Crossrail 2 route, including both the tunnelled core and existing network rail areas
- We will be looking to have further consultation and engagement along the route in advance of applying for permission to build the scheme. To do that, we will be looking to submit a Hybrid Bill to Parliament, hopefully in 2020. The examination of the bill takes time we expect around two years during which anyone affected would be able to represent themselves.
In the telephone conversation Colin was told that they would expect Crossrail 2 to be operational in 2030 with an expected ten million people in the London area.
Our residents association would prefer not to have thousands of new homes in exchange for Crossrail 2 in Chessington. We will ensure that we are involved in the consultation when it eventually starts.
6. HEALTH ISSUES
( g ) Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) Meeting held 5th September 2017 We attended this meeting and were given the following report on what will replace the community beds at Tolworth hospital:-
Tolworth Hospital Community Beds From the 1st of April 2018 there will be 25 community beds at Teddington Memorial Hospital which will be allocated to Kingston patients in place of the community beds currently provided by Tolworth Hospital. We are told that Teddington Memorial Hospital actually have 67 beds so it will be possible for them to be flexible and provide more than 25 if necessary.
( h ) Orchard Practice - Colin Dance who is the Chairman of the Orchard Patients Participation Group (PPG) was unable to be at our meeting to tell us about problems that the Orchard Practice are experiencing in terms of recruiting new GPs and their concerns that their building is no longer fit for purpose. Instead Rob Robb, who recently attended their PPG meeting, told us of the problems.
Dr Naseef a GP and Partner at the Orchard Practice told the PPG meeting that the building has many problems including requiring a lot of electrical work to be done. He does not think that it is worth spending any more money on this building. Instead he would like to move to a modern building like the Merritt Centre. Dr Naseef asked if our association would support his request.
The opinions of the members at our meeting were divided. Some were concerned that so much money (£350k) had already been spent by the NHS on the building in Gosbury Hill. It would be a waste if this building was not utilised. It was finally decided that we would invite Dr Naseef to attend one of our meetings to explain the problems more fully.
7. EDUCATIONAL ISSUES
( i ) Lovelace School - Councillor Day told us that there is now a camera on the roundabout outside the school as there is now no stopping at all allowed.
8. PLANNING APPLICATIONS
( j ) 314, Hook Road 17/10332 (near the Lucky Rover) Demolition of existing building. Erection of two storey building to provide 3 x two bed flats and 1 x one bed flat with associated landscaping. Although our association think that there is probably enough space for two flats we think that four is too many and will object for the following reasons:-
1. Lack of amenity space
2. No onsite parking provision
4. Sunlight/daylight shortcomings.
( k) 358, Hook Road 17/10280 - Erection of two storey side and rear extension, side dormer window, single storey side and rear extension and car parking to rear in connection with change of use from single family dwelling to 2 x one bed studio flats and 1 x 3 bed flats.
As a general principal we are not aware of the demand for one person studio flats in the area. Maybe the developer did not have room for 2 x two bed flats.
There are many errors in this application. Therefore, our association has requested a deferment of the closing date to enable the submitted documents to be put into a less conflicting state so as to allow a realistic appraisal.
( l ) 9, St Marys Close 17/10325 Last year our association supported the residents of St Marys Close by objecting to the appeal of application 15/10327 to build a second house in the grounds of number 9. We were pleased that the Inspectorate refused the appeal. However, a new application has now been submitted. The new application is for a two storey extension to one side of the existing residence.
The main differences to the original application are:-
In view of the improvements to the new application and the fact that it will not be a new dwelling but an extension we will not object.
9. PLANNNG NEWS
( m ) Lidl Store 62 64 and 76 - 78 Leatherhead Road 16/10029/Ful- The original application was to demolish existing residential properties and extend the supermarket car park. This was refused. However, Lidl are now appealing.
This appeal was discussed at our meeting. Some members thought that we should not object as an enlargement of the car park would help reduce the congestion on the A243. However, others are of the opinion that good quality family homes should not be knocked down to enlarge a car park for a supermarket which we all said should not be in this unsuitable location in the first place. We had a vote. Six were against the application and five were for. We will therefore lodge our objection to the appeal.
The next Ward Panel Meeting will be held at Chessington Community College on the 10th of October at 7pm.
11.ANY OTHER BUSINESS
( n ) Sheila advised us that the Lidl Headquarters which is to be built in Kingston Road Tolworth has an ecological problem. There is Japanese Knotweed on the site. A sample is being removed and taken to a specialist to try and find a remedy.
(o ) Conservation Status in Elmcroft Road Mike Hoare advised that he has been told that no decisions regarding conservation status for any areas will be made until March 2018 at the earliest.
Dates for your Diary
The next Chessington District Residents Association Meeting. Our next meeting will be held on Tuesday the 3rd of October 2017 at 8pm at St Pauls Church Hall in Hook Road which is the small hall attached to the side of the Church.
South of the Borough Neighbourhood Conversation on Traffic and Transportation Wednesday 18 October 2017 from 7pm to 9pm Tolworth Girls School KT6 7LQ Discuss local traffic and transportation plans Have your say on future ideas in your local area Light refreshments will be provided
South of the Borough Neighbourhood Committee Meeting Tuesday 7th of November at 7.30pm. Proposed venue: Tolworth Girls School, Fullers Way North, Surbiton KT6 7LQ
I wish to join / renew my membership of the Chessington District Residents Association 2017/2018